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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: bastiat34 on August 19, 2011, 10:31 pm

Title: Opana Vs Duilidid
Post by: bastiat34 on August 19, 2011, 10:31 pm
I've typically used about 6mg (a 4mg and then half of another 4mg) of Hydromorphone the way people would typically take D.

I've got a 10mg Opana IR - I've heard tons of stories about how strong Opana is, a lot of experienced people have run into trouble with them.

Since I don't have a steady supply, I can only use them for really bad breakthroughs of my chronic pain - a few times a week. So - it's not something that is going to have to happen today, but then again I never know when I'll get the breakthrough either.

In any case - I just want to make sure I'm safe and so wonder about how much I should be looking at taking.

Thanks
Title: Re: Opana Vs Duilidid
Post by: chronicpain on August 19, 2011, 11:11 pm
I would probably start with 2-3mg if you have a 6mg dillie habit. Its easy to add, but not take away... go check the conversion with iv dilaudid vs iv oxymorphone and see what it says..
Title: Re: Opana Vs Duilidid
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 19, 2011, 11:42 pm
I would probably start with 2-3mg if you have a 6mg dillie habit.

This is about right I'd 3-4 if you are an actual pain patient, but the thing you have to remember is the duration on the Oxymorphone is 5-6 times longer than the Dilaudid if IV'd in the same manner.

For me the Dilaudid is for a recreational use of someone who wants to get high but not be sedated over half the day. If you have a full day with nothing to do or for breakthrough pain management Opana is your friend.

Also do you have the IR or ER version of Opana>?

:D
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: Opana Vs Duilidid
Post by: bastiat34 on August 19, 2011, 11:58 pm
It's an IR.

I've heard that getting the ER out of the Timex is a real pain in the ass.

With the IR, is it a simple matter to do? Meaning the same as with the D - put it in some hot water, stir and do your thing? Or is there more of a process to it?

Thanks again
Title: Re: Opana Vs Duilidid
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 20, 2011, 12:17 am
It's an IR.

I've heard that getting the ER out of the Timex is a real pain in the ass.

With the IR, is it a simple matter to do? Meaning the same as with the D - put it in some hot water, stir and do your thing? Or is there more of a process to it?

Thanks again

First off it's misnomer that you have to use hot or even warm water while using pills for IV use.
The only time I use warm to hot water with a pill is with the TIMERx ISO Evape method.
The IR are basically the same as Dilaudid but the pills don't fully dissolve because of the binders, so you basically have to a triple filter to get a good clean clear solution for injection if it's got a pink hue to the water, filter again. Your first filter will look like a piece of bubblegum in color and each filter afterwards it will get lighter in color, use different spoons for each filter as well to not reintroduce the binders into the solutions.

nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: Opana Vs Duilidid
Post by: bastiat34 on August 20, 2011, 07:03 pm
Cool...can you reuse the washes then?
Title: Re: Opana Vs Duilidid
Post by: nomad bloodbath on August 20, 2011, 10:26 pm
Cool...can you reuse the washes then?

Yeah you can but that's not proper harm reduction technique...I never reuse washes...but if you must reuse them...only reuse them that day and right after you finish your shot put the filters under a light so they dry quick so bacteria doesn't form on the wet filters and cause you to have "cotton fever".